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Comment Policy, part 1

(The text of this policy is largely taken from this earlier post.)

(PLEASE READ this significantly more operational definition of the comment policy here.)

There is nothing to be gained by engaging an opponent of liberty in a debate, tit-for-tat, or all-out flame war on this site. This is not an academic forum where good faith need be extended to all comers. It is a worksite for an organizational task. Naysayers should be ignored. They are not part of the project.  (I shouldn’t need to get into a big discussion of the hazards involved in responding to trolls, as these have been well documented since the usenet days.)

Those who would expropriate from the producers of the world have forfeited the right to petition for forgiveness or offer justifications after the fact. Do not grant them the status of moral equals by engaging with them. Not here. Not on what I have built to be our turf. There are other places for that sort of free-for-all, and they have their purpose, a very important purpose in fact. But this website has already chosen sides.

Systematically ignoring our adversaries as a policy is meant to drive home that we consider them to be inconsequential. As adversaries, they do not figure into our plans, as they control no important value we seek to gain. Let the unanswered echoing of their shouts impel them to consider why they have fallen upon deaf ears.

Discussion of the details of the goingjohngalt.org project, its tactics, its future forms, etc., is permitted/encouraged, but I will not tolerate any engaging with trolling commenters. Those who do engage with them will have their comments deleted and, after fair warning, be banned from the site.

We are here to focus on the future, not the past.  Let the future we build be the most effective answer to freedom’s enemies.

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  1. Jason - 1 said

    John, I would like to use the 2nd and 3 rd paragraph above for my web site if possible. I wont do it without your permission.
    Let me know.

  2. Go for it! I’m actually pretty proud of the whole comment policy idea. Just let the folks know where you got it from ;-) .

  3. jason - 1 said

    will do!

  4. Reader said

    So its an echo chamber.

  5. Aaron Nicholson said

    You are a fascistic fuck.

  6. FU said

    You’re not a producer.

    As such, in keeping with your policies, please delete all your comments. Failure to do so will be taken as evidence that you’re a grossly blind and hypocritical loser.

    Oh wait… we already knew that.

  7. George Gordon said

    It is now the time of the white man. We will rise up and shake off the shackles that the negro, women’s lib, democrats, NATO, and the mexican have placed on us. Who has been providing the teat for these repugnant pustules to suck at? We have! That’s who! I haven’t read Ann Rand, but the idea of “dropping out” of society and taking our money and our natural resources with us is a brilliant idea. Why in the hell should we share what we worked hard to earn? My father didn’t pass down his money to me so that I could turn around and give it away to some lazy welfare queen! NO! That’s MY MONEY, goddammit! We can survive with what we have, we don’t need public schools, or universal healthcare, or policemen, or firemen – hell no! We’ll hire our own teachers and home school our kids. We can pay our own doctor’s bills – we don’t need to pay anyone else’s. Thanks to private contractors like Blackwater (now “Xe”) we can hire our own private police force – we don’t have to rely on the keystone kops to protect us! This is the United States of America, Baby!. Fuck with me and my Blackwater brothers will take you down, son. Hell, we don’t need anything from the likes of any dirty hippies, liberals, illegals, or Frechies – let’s do it!! LET’S ROLL, BROTHERS!

  8. Dr. Text Message said

    So moving, you only have 6 comments since December 17th. Or, did you delete them al….

  9. Xixie said

    To George Gordon: It’s AYN Rand. I don’t agree with any of her political or economic theories, but she was a great writer. So at least get the WOMAN’S name right when you’re using it to lambast things like “women’s lib.”

  10. Patrick Powers said

    Not only did you miss the point of the book…you made yourself look like a fool by shilling for work… Do you want big business to relocate or to give you a sweet job for making just another not so clever webpage in a sea of not so clever webpages, crummy blogs and useless tweets. I will however give you 5 points for trying the 15 minutes of fame approach.

  11. Jordan L. Kendrick said

    The work we are refering to is Atlas Shrugged, correct?

    If so this work was written out of spite over F.D.R’s New Deal.
    I believe then this work should be discredited as far as political ativisim goes, but it reads well.
    But what would I know, I am a liberial..

  12. Jordan Kendrick said

    Also , ha.. You obvoiulsy haven’t heard of interdependece..

    I say the middle class and poor should stop buying all the goods we do, and just take them if this is the othersides course of action…We make you rich..

  13. Patrick Powers said

    Also as a side note:
    George Gordon…you are a sad sad little man. However, that you may actually believe the words emanating from your fingertips is a scary thought. Invent a time machine and travel forward half a century sir.

  14. LABOR produces wealth,—– not MANAGEMENT— of labor. Any member of the ceo class knows this. To suggest that CEOs serve any function in society other than to organize labor is absurd. You do need us because we provide the labor that makes you rich. I hope all you lazy bastards do move away and let some real hardworking Americans take your cushy jobs. ——Management in this country already went on strike against the hardworking citizen of The United States when it started moving jobs overseas to countries where Union leaders can be murdered for a small price.——-Your website sucks. Your ideology sucks. And most of all you suck! You lazy fucking bastards!

  15. Patrick Powers — now there’s a comment I can finally agree with! Although I’m not sure whether or not he was being facetious. It’s pretty wearying to read these all that closely. But thanks for reminding me to pull him off the public declaration page.

  16. Jonah said

    im just wondering if you are aware how important alternate voices can be within the context of a philosophical and sociological discussion. WHich is what you have done by placing ayn rand at the center of your perspective. How can you justify shutting out opposing concepts in such an all-inclusive problem. As well im wondering how protecting your own needs can possibly work towards the benefit of the whole. Will your empty spots just be filled by your inferiors. And i am confused aas to what resources, besides your education, you plan on ‘taking with you’. You do realize we are in the midst of a shortage of resources and your plan is to try and remove some of them from others access. and you speak ofliberty but you wish to deny others. The individuals freedom comes at the cost of another’s lack of freedom. Who will you be in all this. And oh yeah arent you unemployed? Oh wait i get it thats how you removed your resources stopped working. Well if not participating in the public sphere solves anything i will be the happiest man alive. But it will be the first time something came from nothing.

  17. John Galt said

    I love that there is no place for “open discussion” here! Why should we have to hear what anyone thinks. That fact that you ignorant fucks think that the rich do anything other then steal from the hard working Americans that built this country is absolutely hilarious to me. Start your own country and see who will fight your wars for you and teach to retarded bastards anything and feed and cloth and protect you. Good fucking luck. Hopefully someone will have the foresight to nuke your “country” after you all get there and rid the world of all the useless parasites such as yourself.

  18. BC said

    So, I’ve had a look all over the site, read here and there, taken things in, and I must say!

    Let me get this straight. You’re idea is to have this “calculated work slowdown” because you’re thinking you’re finally standing up for yourselves and taking things into your “productive” hands, making a change. There’s a difference between looking out for yourself and being a selfish prick. Millions over the USA have hit difficult economic times. The government is doing its best to fix that. Are they doing a spectacular job? Maybe not. Is what they’re doing the answer? Maybe not. But what’s definitely not the answer is this “calculated work slowdown.” People are losing their jobs, and your answer to that is to stop doing your own? Let’s skip the part where you pretend to be self-righteous. This isn’t about those people, or the government’s flaws, or anything else. This is about you.

    Why does anyone think this is a good idea? Because the government is taxing you productive (aka: wealthy) members of society, and you don’t want to share? “We got where we are by being hard-working!” Fair enough. Whatever else I may have to say, I can’t argue that you aren’t hard-working people. I don’t know you, and it sometimes does take an amount of work to get to the top. Sometimes. The fact of the matter is, though, that there are a lot of hard-working people out there, who haven’t attained your level of success, through no fault of their own. Some of them have no jobs right now. Some of them have no homes. And if you’re so proud of being hard-working, why is it, exactly, that your idea is to throw that away and “calculate a work slowdown,” because you want to lower the government’s “unfair” taxes.

    What you’re saying, is that if you can’t have all your money, you’re not going to earn any of it.

    I’m not saying you’re all selfish, but this idea certainly is, and it says a lot about those that would support it. Selfish attitudes are exactly what’s wrong with the world. What’s really unfair is that there are people playing king – living in a castle, being tended on hand and foot, and buying whatever they want – while others can’t even afford to put food in their mouths. Logically, if everyone looked out for everyone, everyone would be well looked-out for. Yet the vast majority of the world is populated with people who only watch out for themselves. And you’re not exactly well looked-out for when only one pair of eyes has your back. The fact that you even have the nerve to whine about taxes when you have what so many do not is utterly ridiculous. I’d say you should be ashamed of yourselves, but how you feel makes no difference. It’s about how you act. If you have money, you have the power to make a positive difference in the world, yet you do nothing. Then when someone comes along, threatening your lifestyle, you play the honest, hard-working, good-person citizen card, get all offended, and decide you’re making a stand. For your own money. Seriously?

    This is a complete fucking joke. What a crock of self-serving, indulgent bullshit.

    The funny part is that you actually think you’re in the right! That you’re morally superior! The mere fact that you have a “We Don’t Need You” policy is what makes you look like complete fucking morons. You CEOs and corporate masterminds can all run off on your own, with none of your truly hard-working underlings, and see how far you get, yeah? Maybe you worked your way to the top, but you aren’t working anymore. You would flop without the real workers.

    Because you have the power to change things, and you make the choice not to.

    Because you feel the need to hide behind the book, and the idea that you’re doing this for anyone other than yourselves

    Because you actually think of your own neighbours, countrymen, and globesmen, as “inconsequential.”

    Because you’re so stubborn, so afraid of being proven wrong that you need to ignore any opposing views, suppress any opposition, all while you bring about the downfall of your friends for your own selfish gains. Hell, you may as well go the whole distance and wipe out those you “don’t need,” no?

    Because you are the parasites, the truly morally inferior, the real selfish bastards.

    It is for all these reasons, that the world doesn’t need YOU.

    Yet we’re not deserting you and trying to destroy you, are we? No. If you came to your senses and realized exactly what kind of person you are, you’d be one of us. But as it stands, the way you act and think, and then act and think like you’re right in the way you act and think, is, quite frankly, completely fucked. It may lift you up, and get you that “success” you work so damn hard for, but it pushes everyone else around you down. The world doesn’t need that.

    “When millions are losing jobs, losing homes, and losing hope, there is nothing more important that putting yourself first.”

  19. Jason Brown said

    I woke up this morning to a note on my desk telling me to check out this site and although I do agree with going John Galt, this policy of ignoring the noobs has got to be my favorite part.

    I do that daily, they don’t deserve a voice…

    Good Job, I’ll be checking back… :-)

  20. Thanks, I was hoping someone would like the comment policy! It’s one of my favorite parts too.

  21. BC said

    Right.

    And I suppose you think that women, black people, Jews, homosexuals, and anyone else who’s not an white, wealthy American adult male, is also a… “noob,” and doesn’t deserve a voice either. And here I am, throwing all those groups into one collective group labelled “people!” How silly of me! Not being a dick!

  22. Redneck GoExtinct said

    It is now the time of the white man. “WHAT ROCK DID YOU CRAWL OUT FROM UNDER, I BET YOU DON’T HAVE A PASSPORT DO YOU RACIST GOOF”

    My father didn’t pass down his money to me so that I could turn around and give it away “YOU’RE NOT A SELF MADE MAN, YOU’RE A TRUST FUND BRAT, ”

    Thanks to private contractors like Asswater (now “XO”) we can hire our own private police force – we don’t have to rely on the keystone kops to protect us! “NICE FANTASY, WHAT PRAY TELL ARE YOU GOING TO DO WHEN I PAY THEM MORE TO FUCK YOU UP?”

    This is the United States of America, Baby!. “YOU OBVIOUSLY HAVEN’T READ THE CONSTITUTION MORON”

    Fuck with me and my Blackwater brothers will take you down, son. “DO YOU HAVE ANY IDEA HOW MUCH THAT WOULD COST OH DISTURBED ONE”

    Hell, we don’t need anything from the likes of any dirty hippies, liberals, illegals, or Frechies – let’s do it!! LET’S ROLL, BROTHERS! “YOU SHOULD ROLL A FAT ONE AND DO SOME SOUL SEARCH”N BRO”

    “I’M NO PSYCHOLOGIST BUT IT SOUNDS TO ME LIKE YOU ARE REPRESSING YOUR HOMOSEXUAL DESIRES – IT’S OK TO BE GAY, COME OUT OF THAT STUFFY OLD CLOSET GEORGYBOY”

  23. BC said

    “You’re not a producer.

    As such, in keeping with your policies, please delete all your comments. Failure to do so will be taken as evidence that you’re a grossly blind and hypocritical loser.

    Oh wait… we already knew that.”

    So he’s unimportant because he disagrees with you? I think he speaks a little truer than you, actually.

    “It is now the time of the white man. We will rise up and shake off the shackles that the negro, women’s lib, democrats, NATO, and the mexican have placed on us. Who has been providing the teat for these repugnant pustules to suck at? We have! That’s who! I haven’t read Ann Rand, but the idea of “dropping out” of society and taking our money and our natural resources with us is a brilliant idea. Why in the hell should we share what we worked hard to earn? My father didn’t pass down his money to me so that I could turn around and give it away to some lazy welfare queen! NO! That’s MY MONEY, goddammit! We can survive with what we have, we don’t need public schools, or universal healthcare, or policemen, or firemen – hell no! We’ll hire our own teachers and home school our kids. We can pay our own doctor’s bills – we don’t need to pay anyone else’s. Thanks to private contractors like Blackwater (now “Xe”) we can hire our own private police force – we don’t have to rely on the keystone kops to protect us! This is the United States of America, Baby!. Fuck with me and my Blackwater brothers will take you down, son. Hell, we don’t need anything from the likes of any dirty hippies, liberals, illegals, or Frechies – let’s do it!! LET’S ROLL, BROTHERS!”

    I sincerely hope you’re being satirical.

    “LABOR produces wealth,—– not MANAGEMENT— of labor. Any member of the ceo class knows this. To suggest that CEOs serve any function in society other than to organize labor is absurd. You do need us because we provide the labor that makes you rich. I hope all you lazy bastards do move away and let some real hardworking Americans take your cushy jobs. ——Management in this country already went on strike against the hardworking citizen of The United States when it started moving jobs overseas to countries where Union leaders can be murdered for a small price.——-Your website sucks. Your ideology sucks. And most of all you suck! You lazy fucking bastards!”

    You said most of what I wanted to say in so much less space! I adore you and your genius, sir. And I couldn’t agree more.

  24. MR said

    The ultimate irony here is that you claim you don’t need other people to prosper or even survive, and yet you have established a message board to encourage communication of this ideal. It’s like you’re saying, “I don’t need to relate to any people. Now I’d sure like some people around to agree with me.” This is completely counterintuitive.

    Also, just a heads up: it doesn’t help your cause to paint yourselves as homophobic white supremacists. But then again, as long as you don’t need to relate to others, I guess it doesn’t matter whether you sound the least bit respectable.

  25. MR — Now that’s worth responding to. I don’t know whether or not (as others have mentioned) that guy who was running his racist (was there any homophobia in there? I don’t remember) mouth off was just trying to satirize what he thought was my position, but on the off chance that that was a supporter, I do NOT need that shit here. That’s not at ALL what I’m about. We clear?

  26. You’re a pussy who can’t take criticism because your arguments don’t hold up to serious debate. That is why you and your kind take the fictional “High road”.

    Gore Vidal pwnt Ayn Rand by the way. Also: She is dead. Because she sucks.

  27. suckbushdick said

    wow! you are so smart. i wish i could be like you. i’ve been wanting to suck some fascist dick (george bush comes to mind)…but it looks like you’ve beat me to it. you are sucking every corporate fascist rich dick in america. hope you choke.

  28. Patrick Powers said

    Sadly to get to the marrow of most important issues we have to wade through some ulgy fat. I posted about George Gordon with the hope that he would dispel concern by commenting that he was being facetious. Instead it seems he simply used a different and sadly more ignorant name to post with and did not even bother to change the “fat”. I worked as an Advertising Supervisor at the same company for 3 years until I was down-sized in June. I am running out of unemployment soon and have a son and daughter that I provide child support for. The President signed for 9000 earmarks yesterday (yeah stimulus!!!) but his plan for the “Third Federal Unemployment Extension” leaves me out in the cold (not a joke). I love working and I worked damn hard for my bosses right up until the moment my supervisor dropped the ax. I would love nothing more than to find a decent job so that I can keep my head above water. But reduction in full time employees is a growing trend for the folks who ski in Switzerland five times a year (Hi Chris!) and finding a new gig has proven to be a major problem. Everyone in my moccassins should go to i-petitions.com and sign the petition to grant this extension to good Americans who didn’t ask to be put in the middle of this fiscal nightmare. Remember kiddies…as Frankenstein would say…money good…greed bad. The human commodity is the lynchpin of any good corporation with a soul.

  29. JZ said

    You do know what this sort of political system where the rich say the poor steal their wealth is called: Fascism. Not Hitler, more like Mussolini. Enjoy.

  30. FILES said

    I don’t really agree that objectivism is similar to fascism at all. I think it’s a ridiculous and morally bankrupt ideology, but it isn’t fascistic.

  31. jarhead59 said

    This is the reason that the self serving conservative movement is going down the drain… they’ve had their day in the sun and it has failed America and as pointed out very poignantly by BC… they live in contradiction… they are capitalist but yet if they can’t keep all their money, they will suppress their nature… its disengenuous… don’t get me wrong, I understand when a millionaire stands up for a billionaire, i would expect nothing less…. but when you are a common man (like me or my brother who is a right wing christian that probably makes $50K a year) and you stick up for these blood suckers, i don’t get it….

    you say you are for personal responsibility when it applies to somebody w/o a job or healthcare or a home to pick themselves up by their bootstraps but you provide a free pass on personal responsibility when it comes to taking care of your employees or your community… it is a self serving philosophy that actually endangers our country… i would rather live in a country of well educated, healthy critical thinkers than whatever it is that the other side offers… it’s a romantic ideal but its day has passed…

    THANK GOD!!!

  32. Scott said

    Wouldn’t it be better to go John Galt when the economy is back on it’s feet?

  33. Rick Tucker said

    My conclusion is that BC needs a message board. That person’s making decidedly more sense than the founder of this one.
    I’m more cynical than I want to be but the one thing that keeps me going everyday is not the wisdom of my fellow citizens.
    It is their compassion.
    Yes, I’ve routinely seen people in politics and punditry not fit to teach ethics to kindergarteners. And that’s both sides of the narrow confines of the political idealogues foisted on the gullible public but these days one side of the extreme is particularly repugnant.
    However, the overwhelming majority of that public are able to change their minds when given the opportunity and personal motive to do so. After all, we have a black president who is very intelligent, centrist and pragmatic but also, seemingly, very compassionate. That’s quite a step. A LOT of white people voted for the man.

    The movers in society want uncluttered loyalty to their “causes” and too often they get it with no effort other than practiced, repeated rhetoric to rally new members as well as old. This “John Galt” nonsense from the borderline fascist and unredemptive elitist, Ayn Rand, and her decidedly asinine notions of how society should work is another ploy.

    Here’s the thought for the day: Everybody loves a Western in America and all over the world. Cowboys with guns at their hips, throwing lead for frontier justice, it all seemed pretty grand. The good guy riding up out of nowhere and protecting the small town on the prairie and save the gal he loves.
    Well, that place never existed. Even the filmmakers over the last half century know this and the best “Westerns” reflect just how harsh that life really was. If the mythological frontier justice was so great, why, if it even existed, did it change? Because the simple truth is it didn’t exist. What did exest were people like the cattle barons. Some of them hired thugs to beat those townfolk into submission and forced their water “rights” down people’s throats by buying votes and other undemocratic practices.
    That’s why schools and churches and sheriffs and other lawmen and lawyers and doctors had to move to those places and bring civility to the lawlessness. Oh, and taxes to pay for it all, except those churches (though, the churches eventually were made tax exempt for good or ill).
    Unfortunately, there also were the business men. There has to be a snake in every garden and some snakes aren’t so bad. Some “snakes” came up with ideas, employed folks who didn’t have any ideas. But sometimes those “snakes” just ran off lesser influential “snakes”. The remaining “snake” often had a monopoly on the only employment around and the greedier ones paid the least wages and exploited those who made them wealthy through their labors. Too much of this resulted in Unions. When people are dying to feed their families there will always be people who rise up.
    Were Unions perfect?
    Ha! It was better than nothing but the same greed that afflicted the industry owners soon infected the working force.
    So what you see here is the beginning of a very complex system that is now tumbling down. To blame the unions is pretty simplistic considering why the unions came about to begin with.
    Then our tax dollars are wasted routinely but to believe it’s all wasted on the unemployed (accused of being lazy and wanting a handout) is the craziest thing I’ve ever read. I’ve seen how the upper half lives. For them to whine about paying too much in taxes is absurd. For the wealthy to complain abuot how unfair the tax rules are written is even more absurd when their loopholes, paid for through lobbying efforts no middle class person can afford. Look at the stranglehold they have over Washington. They can cover vast tracks of wealth through the creative accounting methods they can afford to employ and still look like they’re paying through the nose. That’s a nice trick, but anyone looking hard enough can easily see the slight-of-hand employed to make the illusion look real.
    If it were true that the American elite are too put upon why don’t they relocate to a better place?
    Because they know that in those other industrialized countries they’d be routinely taxed more and have even fewer loopholes to hide their excess. Ironically they’d still be riding higher on the hog than they’d care to admit.
    In the poorer countries they have to deal with even more corrupt political leaders than they’ve ever had to buy in the USA. Then there’s the fact that welfare for the rich in this country is routinely greater in the pure dollar ammount than anything the poor receive, and they know this. That’s why they have to create myths around the occasional welfare mom, making them seem like legions, draining the coffers of their taxed wealth.
    We’re never going to achieve the balance required for every one to be treated fairly. That’s life. It’s just not human nature to be generous as a rule. We’re good in a pinch but otherwise we want it all. In fact, we’ve been routinely told that to be rich is the goal and unfortunately we believe it more than we don’t. The new “fair share” is a vacation home in the mountains or on the coast and any way we get it is fine from unnoticed theft, scheming, excessive lawsuits to exploiting friends and family members. Of course the old method of exploiting politics with your money is still the most reliable way to stay rich and laugh at the new money people who thought winning the lottery would fix their problems for life.
    We also have a class warfare issue looming large. So far the fight has been relegated to the op-ed page and other forms of political punditry. There is no “liberal press”, but even as the architects of that lie have admitted as much the guy on the street doesn’t bother to keep up with those admissions of guilt (example of a type: there are catholics who refuse to acknowledge that their last pope admitted that evolution, as a concept and as a scientific theory is fine because it doesn’t jeopardize the existence (belief) of the human soul. All they had to do was read the official statement but they can’t be bothered. Ignorance means never having to make an effort to become informed).
    So, a well read populace would be ideal. Sadly, with guys like “John” sowing the seeds of populist ignorance and fear in a time of financial crisis to those who are worried, his nonsense sounds much more enticing than holding the government and even society responsible for the failings in our economy, and indicting the greedy scum who looted our banks.

    End note: folks, financing a big screen TV with a credit card was just plain stupid and irresponsible. It’s not okay that so many did this but it is the past (I hope ). We all have a stake in what went wrong and how we fix it. Class warfare, social ignorance and aspirations of greed are getting us nowhere, fast.
    For those working: If you can, go out to eat but pay cash. Get your car fixed but wash it yourself. Not spending money just puts other people out of work. Saving money is a great idea and it should be part of your routine. Hoarding it, on the other hand, is not helping.
    For those without work: do not spend any more than you have to. Do not be ashamed to ask for help. We all need help sometimes. We’re a society. We should also be humane and help those who need it.
    We can do better in spite of our history. We have to choose to be better today than we were before.

  34. Alan Wakefield said

    Scott asked a good question on March 14, 2009 that deserves an answer: “Wouldn’t it be better to go John Galt when the economy is back on it’s feet?”

    I submit the answer is clearly ‘NO’.

    Reading or re-reading Atlas Shrugged will make clear that looters expect producers to keep things going regardless of the price to the producers. We see this reflected today in the refusal of the administration (e.g. Robert Reich) to acknowledge that increasing tax rates will reduce tax revenues until the marginal rate is over 60%, and Obama’s waffling between overt hostility to capitalists and calling on those same capitalists to ‘partner’ with the government and buy up toxic assets the government has subsdized.

    The looters refuse to acknowledge reality – for them, hope is a buisness strategy – so the economic crisis must occur, and it’s less hard on the general population to hit bottom from here, than to go through all the pain and instability it took to get here again. Also, delaying the crisis will allow the administration to impose even more looter laws that will have to be undone, and allow the government schools to indoctrinate even more children in the idea that enlightened self-interest (’selfishness’ in the liberal lexicon) is evil, rather than a virtue. One of the above negative postings actually argues this point – validating John’s position that jousting is pointless.

    It may be that it is already too late, and that a majority of the population has already discovered that it can “vote itself largesse from the public purse”. Certainly the administration’s class warfare rhetoric and ‘refundable tax credits’ for non-productive people suggest a desire to foster looting (all in the name of good intentions, of course.)

    In either case, the time is NOW to accelerate the inevitable decline and bring the larger society to a rapid understanding that respect for enlightened self-interest, i.e. selfishness, is THE essential value that drives development of a sustainable, prosperous and free society.

  35. K.A. Kelly said

    Haha! Brother, you got it!

    with love. <3

  36. Patrick Powers said

    I keep coming back here because the premise is intruiging. I do however need to state the obvious. Atlas Shrugged was a piece of fiction designed to make us think and to draw conclusions without being told. The producers can’t produce without labor to make their goods and provide their services. Without capital to start production of their own labor has no leverage and is also stuck in the mire of buying from producers. Hmmmmm…..a strange sort of symbiosis don’t you think? I do agree that a uniform change in how we do business in the US is in order. Attaining wealth is good, but not at the expense of the folks who carried you there. Good people get downsized when a company goes south and has to maintain profits and when the CEO finally gets voted out, he gets a $200 million dollar “golden parachute”. Hard work and dedication desereves reward. This applies to everyone. We are the finest nation in the world and a better balance of work to reward must be found. Let us all put our fellow Americans above the bottom line. Perhaps then computers, tv’s and such will be American made and the call centers that support them will be here in America. Big business is good when it works to forward the American dream, not the petty dreams of individuals whose vision has been clouded by the hunger of profit and have lost sight of values. Bless you all…fellow Americans.

  37. Jill said

    I would not consider myself an objectivist — once was, but not now because my spiritual values have changed. Nonetheless, the social economic philosophies of Ayn Rand remain valid today, and I am thrilled to see that there are folks out there that are taking seriously what is happening right under our noses that no one else seems to notice or to care about. I want economic freedom and success for EVERYONE. But that is impossible when you punish individuals for their own success … or when you allow a single group of people to define “success,” “rich” and “greed.” Yes … going John Galt. Scary, but perhaps necessary. Somehow I think Costa Rica and the Caribbean will be filling up quickly. :-) By the way … was motivated to search out groups like this because I saw a bumper sticker yesterday with the Obama “rainbow” or whatever logo and the words next to it: “John Galt Rising.”

  38. DK said

    Hey loser, why are you begging for programming workinstead of actually going John Galt? Nobody needs you, dipshit.

  39. Jonnie said

    excellent john. some of these comments sound like direct speeches by the poor fools from the novel. good work.

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